Which way?

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Post by top of the C » Mon Apr 07, 2025 5:06 pm

If there were only 2 options, which would you rather?
1. Gorman plays on and we stay up, or
2. Gorman is suspended (by Woking FC) and we are relegated?

Having seen the incident, I hope we suspend him indefinitely, even if we do get relegated.

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Re: Which way?

Post by TWR » Mon Apr 07, 2025 5:08 pm

Surely with him suspended we’d be better?! Or am I being harsh?
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Re: Which way?

Post by RedRich » Mon Apr 07, 2025 5:09 pm

I’d be more than happy to never see him play for us again. I don’t want a relegation though.

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Re: Which way?

Post by Rio » Mon Apr 07, 2025 5:12 pm

Regardless of what WFC decide to do with his contract, I hope he's stripped of captaincy with immediate effect.

Whilst I'm far from convinced he's actually that good, this squad (thanks again Michael) probably can't do without him in any capacity for the next 6 games. If everyone was fit, I imagine/ hope we'd have binned him.

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Re: Which way?

Post by fatmaninthekitchen » Mon Apr 07, 2025 5:17 pm

Is there clear evidence that he actually made contact with the fat cunts person? Not sure there is tbh. Leave him alone, the gucket deserved it, he is not a disgrace , just needed some rretribution for a yob who attacked one of his teamates

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Re: Which way?

Post by Nonsense Potter » Mon Apr 07, 2025 5:19 pm

Rio wrote:
Mon Apr 07, 2025 5:12 pm
Regardless of what WFC decide to do with his contract, I hope he's stripped of captaincy with immediate effect.
If he starts tomorrow with the armband, it'll be the first thing that Ardley has done that's completely wrong.
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Re: Which way?

Post by samf679 » Mon Apr 07, 2025 5:24 pm

Nonsense Potter wrote:
Mon Apr 07, 2025 5:19 pm
Rio wrote:
Mon Apr 07, 2025 5:12 pm
Regardless of what WFC decide to do with his contract, I hope he's stripped of captaincy with immediate effect.
If he starts tomorrow with the armband, it'll be the first thing that Ardley has done that's completely wrong.
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Re: Which way?

Post by darreng » Mon Apr 07, 2025 5:48 pm

fatmaninthekitchen wrote:
Mon Apr 07, 2025 5:17 pm
Is there clear evidence that he actually made contact with the fat cunts person? Not sure there is tbh. Leave him alone, the gucket deserved it, he is not a disgrace , just needed some rretribution for a yob who attacked one of his teamates
I’ve not zoomed in close enough to check, but the intent is there and the inflammatory nature of it are the issues regardless.

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Re: Which way?

Post by Red and White Army » Mon Apr 07, 2025 6:02 pm

top of the C wrote:
Mon Apr 07, 2025 5:06 pm
If there were only 2 options, which would you rather?
1. Gorman plays on and we stay up, or
2. Gorman is suspended (by Woking FC) and we are relegated?

Having seen the incident, I hope we suspend him indefinitely, even if we do get relegated.
Anything that chooses option 2 is a fool. There’s 6 games left, we can forget about Gormless in a month and move on.

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Re: Which way?

Post by Card Sharp » Mon Apr 07, 2025 6:36 pm

Red and White Army wrote:
Mon Apr 07, 2025 6:02 pm
top of the C wrote:
Mon Apr 07, 2025 5:06 pm
If there were only 2 options, which would you rather?
1. Gorman plays on and we stay up, or
2. Gorman is suspended (by Woking FC) and we are relegated?

Having seen the incident, I hope we suspend him indefinitely, even if we do get relegated.
Anything that chooses option 2 is a fool. There’s 6 games left, we can forget about Gormless in a month and move on.

Option 3
Gorman is suspended and we stay up

Problem is, despite in my mind being the worst Captain in recent memory for various reasons, he still offers more than Anderson and Lawson. That's pretty sad.

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Re: Which way?

Post by Adrian » Mon Apr 07, 2025 6:59 pm

Very strange player, he was more the often than not the driving force behind several good Barnet performances against us in previous seasons.
He received a standing ovation from the Barnet Support when we played there and the Barnet Manager said that he was very disappointed that he left to join us, when we shared a table at a cafe before the D&R match.

His disciplinary record has been appalling and we’ve seen not very much of the player he was at Barnet.

He is signed for next season and we aren’t in a position to discard players currently.

So carry on regardless in my book, there is a player in there somewhere, his record confirms it.
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Re: Which way?

Post by wokingcardinal » Mon Apr 07, 2025 7:08 pm

top of the C wrote:
Mon Apr 07, 2025 5:06 pm
If there were only 2 options, which would you rather?
1. Gorman plays on and we stay up, or
2. Gorman is suspended (by Woking FC) and we are relegated?

Having seen the incident, I hope we suspend him indefinitely, even if we do get relegated.
WTF would any fan want us relegated!? I'm not sure if you trolling, but fuck off anyway.

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Re: Which way?

Post by JAM » Mon Apr 07, 2025 7:14 pm

Adrian wrote:
Mon Apr 07, 2025 6:59 pm
Very strange player, he was more the often than not the driving force behind several good Barnet performances against us in previous seasons.
He received a standing ovation from the Barnet Support when we played there and the Barnet Manager said that he was very disappointed that he left to join us, when we shared a table at a cafe before the D&R match.

His disciplinary record has been appalling and we’ve seen not very much of the player he was at Barnet.

He is signed for next season and we aren’t in a position to discard players currently.

So carry on regardless in my book, there is a player in there somewhere, his record confirms it.
Are you suggesting that he is contracted to the club for next season
If so I wasn’t aware of that.

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Re: Which way?

Post by Ashcard » Mon Apr 07, 2025 7:15 pm

Adrian wrote:
Mon Apr 07, 2025 6:59 pm
Very strange player, he was more the often than not the driving force behind several good Barnet performances against us in previous seasons.
He received a standing ovation from the Barnet Support when we played there and the Barnet Manager said that he was very disappointed that he left to join us, when we shared a table at a cafe before the D&R match.

His disciplinary record has been appalling and we’ve seen not very much of the player he was at Barnet.

He is signed for next season and we aren’t in a position to discard players currently.

So carry on regardless in my book, there is a player in there somewhere, his record confirms it.
Arguably there could be a case of gross misconduct for what he did so could have the contract terminated. I doubt that will happen but at the very least i really do not want him wearing the captains armband ever again.

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Re: Which way?

Post by kansasCard » Mon Apr 07, 2025 7:17 pm

I mean jeez. We played a guy who took a belt to someone and did time, another who was caught up in a drugs bust and did 3 months... ffs get a grip. Why are some wielding pitchforks and torches looking to burn everything down.
What he did - if he did it, was wrong. Mitigating circumstances? maybe. Maybe not. Was it out of character? Probably not. But wobble your shells folks. If he faces disciplinary action so be it. That's for the club to decide. Jesus we do love a fucking hunt on here.
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Post by Lurker » Mon Apr 07, 2025 7:25 pm

JAM wrote:
Mon Apr 07, 2025 7:14 pm
Adrian wrote:
Mon Apr 07, 2025 6:59 pm
Very strange player, he was more the often than not the driving force behind several good Barnet performances against us in previous seasons.
He received a standing ovation from the Barnet Support when we played there and the Barnet Manager said that he was very disappointed that he left to join us, when we shared a table at a cafe before the D&R match.

His disciplinary record has been appalling and we’ve seen not very much of the player he was at Barnet.

He is signed for next season and we aren’t in a position to discard players currently.

So carry on regardless in my book, there is a player in there somewhere, his record confirms it.
Are you suggesting that he is contracted to the club for next season
If so I wasn’t aware of that.
I think he only has a one-year deal, but I was told that he'd already played enough games to have triggered an automatic extension for next season. No idea if that's true or not though.

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Re: Which way?

Post by Card Sharp » Mon Apr 07, 2025 7:27 pm

kansasCard wrote:
Mon Apr 07, 2025 7:17 pm
I mean jeez. We played a guy who took a belt to someone and did time, another who was caught up in a drugs bust and did 3 months... ffs get a grip. Why are some wielding pitchforks and torches looking to burn everything down.
What he did - if he did it, was wrong. Mitigating circumstances? maybe. Maybe not. Was it out of character? Probably not. But wobble your shells folks. If he faces disciplinary action so be it. That's for the club to decide. Jesus we do love a fucking hunt on here.
It's not that simple.

Gorman was a marquee signing. Doyle said it...top 3 of our targets or something? Who were the other 2!?

Made Captain. With that comes a lot. As Captain you are given a responsibility. He is representing the club more than any other player. He's been awful in that regard. What he did, whether he actually made contact or not, simply shows that he isn't deserving of leading this team. And that's without talking about his frankly unacceptable disciplinary record.

I understand emotions were running high. He didn't check on Will. Relieve him of the armband at least. Maybe the authorities will go further. Maybe the club should. Let's see. But if he's Captain tomorrow, as others have said, NA has got it wrong.

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Re: Which way?

Post by Adrian » Mon Apr 07, 2025 7:28 pm

kansasCard wrote:
Mon Apr 07, 2025 7:17 pm
I mean jeez. We played a guy who took a belt to someone and did time, another who was caught up in a drugs bust and did 3 months... ffs get a grip. Why are some wielding pitchforks and torches looking to burn everything down.
What he did - if he did it, was wrong. Mitigating circumstances? maybe. Maybe not. Was it out of character? Probably not. But wobble your shells folks. If he faces disciplinary action so be it. That's for the club to decide. Jesus we do love a fucking hunt on here.
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Post by Meerkat » Mon Apr 07, 2025 7:31 pm

kansasCard wrote:
Mon Apr 07, 2025 7:17 pm
I mean jeez. We played a guy who took a belt to someone and did time, another who was caught up in a drugs bust and did 3 months... ffs get a grip. Why are some wielding pitchforks and torches looking to burn everything down.
What he did - if he did it, was wrong. Mitigating circumstances? maybe. Maybe not. Was it out of character? Probably not. But wobble your shells folks. If he faces disciplinary action so be it. That's for the club to decide. Jesus we do love a fucking hunt on here.
Errr maybe it’s just the culmination of watching a whole season of the bloke being a prick and picking up ridiculous bookings?
If there was contact then he has gone out of his way to calmly stamp on a restrained person. That is just not acceptable.
Ps IIRC the two players you mention were punished for the offences and did their time.

Odd thing….if he stamped on him why haven’t we seen a big fuss from the ‘victim’? Considering the trouble he is in you might think he would want to whine a lot??

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Post by Byfleet Kre » Mon Apr 07, 2025 7:32 pm

If the alderSH!T fan wasn’t on the pitch and attacked will then he obviously wouldn’t have done it.

Yes I agree it’s not the done thing as a club captain as you should be leading by example and that’s why beautyman should have the armband.

The police and stewards only had to turn around and deal with the idiots on the pitch rather than being lined up in front of us.

As we were walking out the ground there was more police running in via the gate and someone said you are about five minutes late boys.

Absolute shit show of a ref, lino, the ground & the security.

Other than giving them 2x gifts of penalties and a red card that’s not even a yellow you can’t fault the boys determination and effort.

Aldershot never really laid a glove on us and hopeful justice will be done when they come to us.

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Post by Moaners » Mon Apr 07, 2025 7:50 pm

Just fuck him off, adds nothing, and if the stamp is the catalyst then so be it.

I could write a long article on why he shouldn’t be captain, and why if I never saw him again play for Woking, I would, but would come off reactional.

He has been nothing but a liability, goes missing in big games (with our form, that’s almost most of the season), goes on the attack towards others the moment the oppo has a shot, when he’s done nothing in the middle of the park to prevent it.

Although some will see him as a hero for the stamp, he committed a lot more crimes before that moment on Saturday for a so called “captain” and leader.

He was one of Doyle’s boys from Coventry I think, much like Harries and Kelly-Evans.

I don’t know who cost more in wages per minutes this season him or Ince?

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Post by kansasCard » Mon Apr 07, 2025 7:57 pm

Card Sharp wrote:
Mon Apr 07, 2025 7:27 pm
kansasCard wrote:
Mon Apr 07, 2025 7:17 pm
I mean jeez. We played a guy who took a belt to someone and did time, another who was caught up in a drugs bust and did 3 months... ffs get a grip. Why are some wielding pitchforks and torches looking to burn everything down.
What he did - if he did it, was wrong. Mitigating circumstances? maybe. Maybe not. Was it out of character? Probably not. But wobble your shells folks. If he faces disciplinary action so be it. That's for the club to decide. Jesus we do love a fucking hunt on here.
It's not that simple.

Gorman was a marquee signing. Doyle said it...top 3 of our targets or something? Who were the other 2!?

Made Captain. With that comes a lot. As Captain you are given a responsibility. He is representing the club more than any other player. He's been awful in that regard. What he did, whether he actually made contact or not, simply shows that he isn't deserving of leading this team. And that's without talking about his frankly unacceptable disciplinary record.

I understand emotions were running high. He didn't check on Will. Relieve him of the armband at least. Maybe the authorities will go further. Maybe the club should. Let's see. But if he's Captain tomorrow, as others have said, NA has got it wrong.
I'm not disputing anything you say. He could be the marquee of all marquee signings, he could be captain (which has responsibilities) or he could be the water carrier (which has responsibilities). Every player, official, and supporter is representing the club. I believe the incident should be investigated, and the necessary steps taken to address the situation as deemed fit by the club. Do I think he's captain material? I do not. Should he be stripped of captaincy? Yes imo- if the club determines that is the correct action. He does not lead by example. Until then Innocent until proven guilty. The other two I mention were found GUILTY yet...
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Post by Hampshire92 » Mon Apr 07, 2025 8:02 pm

Byfleet Kre wrote:
Mon Apr 07, 2025 7:32 pm
If the alderSH!T fan wasn’t on the pitch and attacked will then he obviously wouldn’t have done it.

Yes I agree it’s not the done thing as a club captain as you should be leading by example and that’s why beautyman should have the armband.

The police and stewards only had to turn around and deal with the idiots on the pitch rather than being lined up in front of us.

As we were walking out the ground there was more police running in via the gate and someone said you are about five minutes late boys.

Absolute shit show of a ref, lino, the ground & the security.

Other than giving them 2x gifts of penalties and a red card that’s not even a yellow you can’t fault the boys determination and effort.

Aldershot never really laid a glove on us and hopeful justice will be done when they come to us.
I'm not sure we will be paticularly bothered by the result at your place ita win win for us

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Re: Which way?

Post by Adrian » Mon Apr 07, 2025 8:07 pm

So, it seems we move on from the Beautyman incident and start a witchhunt on a player when are efforts should be about staying in this league.

I’m sure the club will deal with things as they see fit, just get behind the team

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Re: Which way?

Post by kansasCard » Mon Apr 07, 2025 8:08 pm

Meerkat wrote:
Mon Apr 07, 2025 7:31 pm
kansasCard wrote:
Mon Apr 07, 2025 7:17 pm
I mean jeez. We played a guy who took a belt to someone and did time, another who was caught up in a drugs bust and did 3 months... ffs get a grip. Why are some wielding pitchforks and torches looking to burn everything down.
What he did - if he did it, was wrong. Mitigating circumstances? maybe. Maybe not. Was it out of character? Probably not. But wobble your shells folks. If he faces disciplinary action so be it. That's for the club to decide. Jesus we do love a fucking hunt on here.
Errr maybe it’s just the culmination of watching a whole season of the bloke being a prick and picking up ridiculous bookings?
If there was contact then he has gone out of his way to calmly stamp on a restrained person. That is just not acceptable.
Ps IIRC the two players you mention were punished for the offences and did their time.

Odd thing….if he stamped on him why haven’t we seen a big fuss from the ‘victim’? Considering the trouble he is in you might think he would want to whine a lot??
again - no dispute from me. From a position of influence which team captain surely carries, he's been nothing but a liability* on the whole. It's true we haven't heard from the 'victim' yet. Maybe Aldershot are coaching him and preparing a damning statement? Anyhow - no one has been charged with anything yet, that's all i'm saying. The posse are already wanting to string him up - and it's a little early for a lynching. *I do think he's been nothing but a prick all season and certainly not captain worthy.
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