The Way Ahead with Social Distancing?

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The Way Ahead with Social Distancing?

Post by djspeak » Mon Jul 06, 2020 8:54 am

IF we will be under these constraints for some time (could be most of 20/21 season) then crowds will be constrained to say 1000 at Kingfield (I'm assuming LGS will be sparsely occupied). Alternative way of generating income is to offer an on-line viewing service - we already have pretty good broadcast quality and an additional camera would make it even better. Could these be delivered through an on-line portal (eg utube ..) and is there a way of encrypting/charging? I know I would be happy to pay a fiver to watch the match online and we could even offer online season tickets - say £75. It may be that football will have to move even more towards the sofa viewers ?

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Re: The Way Ahead with Social Distancing?

Post by JGreenwood » Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:14 am

Interestingly the Conf South/North P/Os are going to be streamed via a PPV platform online, which is a shift in the direction you mention above. As rights holders, BT Sport would really need to be onboard for your suggestion to work.

Monetising the great media content we have is something that should be on the table, even after the pandemic is over. This could see us invest in getting the infrastructure in place.

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Re: The Way Ahead with Social Distancing?

Post by Kingfield Ender » Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:18 am

we cant survive on 1000. no crowds = no football at our level
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Re: The Way Ahead with Social Distancing?

Post by AndyT » Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:40 am

The FA consultation document that came out the other week was talking of reducing capacity to 30% of the ground capacity. This would roughly mean Kingfield being limited to around 2,000 which should be fine for social distancing for most. Our true regular support is probably between 1,500 and 2,000 so that capacity would allow our regulars to attend (presuming they want to of course) where as 1,000 would bar some of our regular supporters to attend and I can't see that streaming the matches would make up the difference financially. As KE says, reducing it to 1,000 (or 15%) wouldn't be financially viable and probably wouldn't be any safer than allowing 2,000.

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Re: The Way Ahead with Social Distancing?

Post by photocard » Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:53 am

AndyT wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:40 am
The FA consultation document that came out the other week was talking of reducing capacity to 30% of the ground capacity. This would roughly mean Kingfield being limited to around 2,000 which should be fine for social distancing for most. Our true regular support is probably between 1,500 and 2,000 so that capacity would allow our regulars to attend (presuming they want to of course) where as 1,000 would bar some of our regular supporters to attend and I can't see that streaming the matches would make up the difference financially. As KE says, reducing it to 1,000 (or 15%) wouldn't be financially viable and probably wouldn't be any safer than allowing 2,000.
1000 would be financially viable; we’d just have less to spend on players. It’s quite simple spend within your means, you don’t have to spend more than you’ve got.

I want us to be as successful as possible; bottom line is we need to generate more off field income, that’s been the case for 30+ years. That’s the only way we’ll be more successful on the pitch; long term,

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Re: The Way Ahead with Social Distancing?

Post by Adrian » Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:55 am

Until it is deemed safe to attend matches in the traditional fashion, it is unsafe to do so.

Our players are part time, so will have to under go a ridiculous amount of testing to prove they are able to play.

All at a cost.

Football at our level is impractical until the current situation has subsided.

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Re: The Way Ahead with Social Distancing?

Post by neverlostatwembley3 » Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:25 am

Adrian wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:55 am
Until it is deemed safe to attend matches in the traditional fashion, it is unsafe to do so.

Our players are part time, so will have to under go a ridiculous amount of testing to prove they are able to play.

All at a cost.

Football at our level is impractical until the current situation has subsided.
Based on that logic everywhere would have to close because you can't go to places in the "traditional fashion".

Everyone has to adapt at the moment and football should be no different.

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Re: The Way Ahead with Social Distancing?

Post by Adrian » Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:38 am

neverlostatwembley3 wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:25 am
Adrian wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:55 am
Until it is deemed safe to attend matches in the traditional fashion, it is unsafe to do so.

Our players are part time, so will have to under go a ridiculous amount of testing to prove they are able to play.

All at a cost.

Football at our level is impractical until the current situation has subsided.
Based on that logic everywhere would have to close because you can't go to places in the "traditional fashion".

Everyone has to adapt at the moment and football should be no different.
Football matches aren’t a necessity.

Have a think about how it would be practical to ensure a team of part time players are tested and confirmed they were “safe” to play against.

Also the officials fall into this category as do any stafff that come into contact with the players.
Can we really justify taking away a doctor from more important duties currently also, one has to be in attendance at matches.

Solve that and you’re halfway to getting things started.

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Re: The Way Ahead with Social Distancing?

Post by Reading Card » Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:11 pm

Can we really justify taking away a doctor from more important duties currently also, one has to be in attendance at matches.
The tests are so easy to administer and to interpret - a doctor isn't really needed. There are new methods of testing evolving too. This would be testing staff / players without symptoms so therefore preventative testing.

A reduced capacity of say 2000 could work really well. You would have to buy a season ticket to get in thus increasing ST sales.

A streaming ST would be a great idea too to make up the short fall of revenue. I would buy both a home ST and streaming ST

We need to assume the virus will be with us for the foreseeable.

My glass is half full, we can get football back if we want too.

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Re: The Way Ahead with Social Distancing?

Post by skippy » Mon Jul 06, 2020 1:12 pm

Insurance will probably be the stumbling block at our level.
I suspect insurer requirements will require more hoops and hurdles than most teams at our level can afford.

Until such time as the FA/NL can provide sufficient guidelines for spectator games that insurers and clubs are happy with then I can't see it starting again at our level for a while.

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Re: The Way Ahead with Social Distancing?

Post by Red and White Army » Mon Jul 06, 2020 1:57 pm

Adrian wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:38 am
neverlostatwembley3 wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:25 am


Based on that logic everywhere would have to close because you can't go to places in the "traditional fashion".

Everyone has to adapt at the moment and football should be no different.
Football matches aren’t a necessity.

Have a think about how it would be practical to ensure a team of part time players are tested and confirmed they were “safe” to play against.

Also the officials fall into this category as do any stafff that come into contact with the players.
Can we really justify taking away a doctor from more important duties currently also, one has to be in attendance at matches.

Solve that and you’re halfway to getting things started.
Pubs and restaurants aren't a necessity either. Is everyone who enters a shop, pub or restaurant tested to confirm they are 'safe'?

We have always had a a doctor present at our matches, were you complaining about them being taken away from more pressing matters then?

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Re: The Way Ahead with Social Distancing?

Post by Texas Dave » Mon Jul 06, 2020 4:26 pm

be more like Boreham Wood practice social distancing

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Re: The Way Ahead with Social Distancing?

Post by Adrian » Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:05 pm

Red and White Army wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 1:57 pm
Adrian wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:38 am


Football matches aren’t a necessity.

Have a think about how it would be practical to ensure a team of part time players are tested and confirmed they were “safe” to play against.

Also the officials fall into this category as do any stafff that come into contact with the players.
Can we really justify taking away a doctor from more important duties currently also, one has to be in attendance at matches.

Solve that and you’re halfway to getting things started.
Pubs and restaurants aren't a necessity either. Is everyone who enters a shop, pub or restaurant tested to confirm they are 'safe'?

We have always had a a doctor present at our matches, were you complaining about them being taken away from more pressing matters then?
Pubs etc, pure Whataboutery mate.

If you can answer the conundrum about testing part time players and all and sundry that will come into contact with them on a match day fine.

And yes, Doctors have more pressing things to do atm, than attend unnecessary sporting events.

If the wearing of a mask is in a socially distanced crowd is mandatory, it’s obviously not safe!!!

But I suspect the testing of players, officials and management teams etc will be the stumbling block anyway.

I’m missing football as much as the next person, but prepared to wait until things have run their course.

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Re: The Way Ahead with Social Distancing?

Post by Red and White Army » Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:27 pm

Adrian wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:05 pm
Red and White Army wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 1:57 pm


Pubs and restaurants aren't a necessity either. Is everyone who enters a shop, pub or restaurant tested to confirm they are 'safe'?

We have always had a a doctor present at our matches, were you complaining about them being taken away from more pressing matters then?
Pubs etc, pure Whataboutery mate.

If you can answer the conundrum about testing part time players and all and sundry that will come into contact with them on a match day fine.

And yes, Doctors have more pressing things to do atm, than attend unnecessary sporting events.

If the wearing of a mask is in a socially distanced crowd is mandatory, it’s obviously not safe!!!

But I suspect the testing of players, officials and management teams etc will be the stumbling block anyway.

I’m missing football as much as the next person, but prepared to wait until things have run their course.
Ahh so you’re one of those who claims ‘whataboutery’ whenever someone presents a comparable scenario.

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Re: The Way Ahead with Social Distancing?

Post by Adrian » Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:36 pm

Red and White Army wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:27 pm
Adrian wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:05 pm

Pubs etc, pure Whataboutery mate.

If you can answer the conundrum about testing part time players and all and sundry that will come into contact with them on a match day fine.

And yes, Doctors have more pressing things to do atm, than attend unnecessary sporting events.

If the wearing of a mask is in a socially distanced crowd is mandatory, it’s obviously not safe!!!

But I suspect the testing of players, officials and management teams etc will be the stumbling block anyway.

I’m missing football as much as the next person, but prepared to wait until things have run their course.
Ahh so you’re one of those who claims ‘whataboutery’ whenever someone presents a comparable scenario.
Because it is.

Stick to the in question.

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Re: The Way Ahead with Social Distancing?

Post by kansasCard » Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:53 pm

photocard wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:53 am
AndyT wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:40 am
The FA consultation document that came out the other week was talking of reducing capacity to 30% of the ground capacity. This would roughly mean Kingfield being limited to around 2,000 which should be fine for social distancing for most. Our true regular support is probably between 1,500 and 2,000 so that capacity would allow our regulars to attend (presuming they want to of course) where as 1,000 would bar some of our regular supporters to attend and I can't see that streaming the matches would make up the difference financially. As KE says, reducing it to 1,000 (or 15%) wouldn't be financially viable and probably wouldn't be any safer than allowing 2,000.
1000 would be financially viable; we’d just have less to spend on players. It’s quite simple spend within your means, you don’t have to spend more than you’ve got.

I want us to be as successful as possible; bottom line is we need to generate more off field income, that’s been the case for 30+ years. That’s the only way we’ll be more successful on the pitch; long term,
don't know how feasible... don't sell season tickets.(for next season) $99 x 1000 99.000 18 x 23 x 1000 $414,000

add streaming tickets, streaming season tickets, boost the budget and get Dowse running a few laps.... budget could be a goodun.
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Re: The Way Ahead with Social Distancing?

Post by Mr Jones » Thu Jul 09, 2020 12:22 am

Without wanting to lower the tone, social distancing is easy. It’s boozing and taking a piss that are the issues.

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Re: The Way Ahead with Social Distancing?

Post by wokingsteve » Fri Jul 10, 2020 10:29 pm

The home end at kingfield at the final whistle v The mighty SHOTS.

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Re: The Way Ahead with Social Distancing?

Post by Kingfield Ender » Fri Jul 10, 2020 11:17 pm

17th - fail
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