Formation(s) for upcoming season

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Formation(s) for upcoming season

Post by GladToBeHere » Mon May 27, 2019 12:10 pm

Having seen us stick with quite a rigid style of play and formation, that won us promotion back to the National League, do others believe this will prove successful again? This time as a means of achieving safety, 50points+, for our upcoming season in the National League.

My personnel opinion is that without being move accustomed to trying to work out the opposition and setting out a formation to counter their strengths, especially away from home, we could end up being found wanting.
I appreciate that training schedule could become difficult to manage this method, especially being part time and there being so many mid week games at the start of the season but knowing the fixture list mid summer and having a well managed pre-season surely this could be addressed in advance of some of our early away fixtures.

For our default system I have no issues with sticking with the 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1, some could call it, we have been utilisig under Dowse. All I hope is that we recruit well enough to bring about sufficient players of quality to create chances to generate shots at goal to allow players opportunity to covert a good percentage of those into goals.

Away from home I would like to see us try maybe a system that utilises 3 centre backs, more of a 3-5-2 approach. That can then be tweaked dependant upon the opposition, using my best Football Manager approach I’ve tried to illustrate below.
Goalkeeper (GK) Centre Back (CB) Wing Back (WB) Centre Midfield (CM) Defensive Midfielder (DM) Forward Centre (FC)
——————GK——————-
——CB——-CB——-CB——-
WB—CM—-DM—-CM—-WB
—————FC——FC————

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Re: Formation(s) for upcoming season

Post by Kingfield Ender » Mon May 27, 2019 1:12 pm

1-1-8

CHARGE !!!!!
Still Plugging away in the absence of the great one

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Re: Formation(s) for upcoming season

Post by Spitfire » Mon May 27, 2019 2:22 pm

5-0-5
Hold firm at the back and smash it long.
Who really needs a midfield when you can play it over the top and long? Conference football at its finest

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Re: Formation(s) for upcoming season

Post by Sunbrow » Mon May 27, 2019 2:41 pm

Chill out, go and watch some cricket or netball, come back to this in August.

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Re: Formation(s) for upcoming season

Post by Junction 8 » Mon May 27, 2019 2:47 pm

GladToBeHere wrote:
Mon May 27, 2019 12:10 pm
Having seen us stick with quite a rigid style of play and formation, that won us promotion back to the National League, do others believe this will prove successful again? This time as a means of achieving safety, 50points+, for our upcoming season in the National League.

My personnel opinion is that without being move accustomed to trying to work out the opposition and setting out a formation to counter their strengths, especially away from home, we could end up being found wanting.
I appreciate that training schedule could become difficult to manage this method, especially being part time and there being so many mid week games at the start of the season but knowing the fixture list mid summer and having a well managed pre-season surely this could be addressed in advance of some of our early away fixtures.

For our default system I have no issues with sticking with the 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1, some could call it, we have been utilisig under Dowse. All I hope is that we recruit well enough to bring about sufficient players of quality to create chances to generate shots at goal to allow players opportunity to covert a good percentage of those into goals.

Away from home I would like to see us try maybe a system that utilises 3 centre backs, more of a 3-5-2 approach. That can then be tweaked dependant upon the opposition, using my best Football Manager approach I’ve tried to illustrate below.
Goalkeeper (GK) Centre Back (CB) Wing Back (WB) Centre Midfield (CM) Defensive Midfielder (DM) Forward Centre (FC)
——————GK——————-
——CB——-CB——-CB——-
WB—CM—-DM—-CM—-WB
—————FC——FC————
I’ve said for a while I like this formation. Firstly it would fit Cook, Diarra and Gerring into the team and secondly it would give us that all important 2 up front. Poku naturally fills the DM role, and Casey would be a natural left wing back. It would depend on whether we could find a similar marauding right wing back (like Caprice for example). Also not sure how Hodges for example would fit.

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Re: Formation(s) for upcoming season

Post by Meerkat » Mon May 27, 2019 2:50 pm

I am thinking two up front might be a bit underworked next season.....
Better to have a midfielder with the engine to arrive late

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Re: Formation(s) for upcoming season

Post by GladToBeHere » Mon May 27, 2019 4:14 pm

Sunbrow wrote:
Mon May 27, 2019 2:41 pm
Chill out, go and watch some cricket or netball, come back to this in August.
Thank you for the well meant, I suspect, advice.

I will be enjoying the break from football by watching Chess and Warhammer videos on-line on Agamator Chess and Striking Scorpion 82 YouTube channels.
Would recommend to anyone with interests in either hobby.

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Re: Formation(s) for upcoming season

Post by Sunbrow » Mon May 27, 2019 8:18 pm

GladToBeHere wrote:
Mon May 27, 2019 4:14 pm
Sunbrow wrote:
Mon May 27, 2019 2:41 pm
Chill out, go and watch some cricket or netball, come back to this in August.
Thank you for the well meant, I suspect, advice.

I will be enjoying the break from football by watching Chess and Warhammer videos on-line on Agamator Chess and Striking Scorpion 82 YouTube channels.
Would recommend to anyone with interests in either hobby.
. That's even sadder. get out and enjoy the weather and fresh air.

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Re: Formation(s) for upcoming season

Post by Cardbattery » Mon May 27, 2019 8:45 pm

Sunbrow wrote:
Mon May 27, 2019 8:18 pm
GladToBeHere wrote:
Mon May 27, 2019 4:14 pm


Thank you for the well meant, I suspect, advice.

I will be enjoying the break from football by watching Chess and Warhammer videos on-line on Agamator Chess and Striking Scorpion 82 YouTube channels.
Would recommend to anyone with interests in either hobby.
. That's even sadder. get out and enjoy the weather and fresh air.
Your hard, demeaning people’s hobbies

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Re: Formation(s) for upcoming season

Post by GladToBeHere » Tue May 28, 2019 9:23 am

Cardbattery wrote:
Mon May 27, 2019 8:45 pm
Sunbrow wrote:
Mon May 27, 2019 8:18 pm
. That's even sadder. get out and enjoy the weather and fresh air.
Your hard, demeaning people’s hobbies
Thanks for the comments but it’s not a surprise, the original comment that is. Most people believe either hobby is only favoured by perculair souls. Only if people would broaden their horizons they would realise how good both actually are.

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Re: Formation(s) for upcoming season

Post by MattA » Tue May 28, 2019 1:00 pm

We will be playing Yeovil for the first time in a number of years.
The last time I can remember playing Yeovil we played 5-5-0 formation. Not entirely sure why that was deemed tactically necessary but I vaguely remember Matt Hayfield playing for us as our most advanced midfielder.

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Re: Formation(s) for upcoming season

Post by oakie » Tue May 28, 2019 1:32 pm

Will very much depend on what players we are able to secure - thread is about 2 months too early

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Re: Formation(s) for upcoming season

Post by GladToBeHere » Tue May 28, 2019 3:34 pm

oakie wrote:
Tue May 28, 2019 1:32 pm
Will very much depend on what players we are able to secure - thread is about 2 months too early
Would like to think that our recruitment would be driven by a set upon formation structure, hence the reason for this threads timing. Just my humble opinion.

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Re: Formation(s) for upcoming season

Post by oakie » Tue May 28, 2019 3:47 pm

Agree, I'm sure the management have Plan A and B approaches they would like to pursue and have identified player recruitment targets to maximise their ability to bring those strategies to fruition, but if all they manage to attract are heads on sticks and long-throw specialists then Kinnear ball it will be even if we had something else in mind at outset...

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Re: Formation(s) for upcoming season

Post by Dowse's Daschund » Tue May 28, 2019 11:54 pm

I never like 4231 even when I saw it deployed at East Thurrock and we stuck with it whatever. We won promotion so what do I know.

I just thought from the make up of the squad that two up front made sense in the early days. Luer or Hyde holding up play with a battering ram of DOA finishing it off.

I think we could employ a 2 up front next year with a similar Hyde/Luer/Tarpey type holding it up and putting it through to a poacher who will just finish off any chance he gets. But then I'm pretty traditional. I like two winger bombing it on and I don't think the wingers weve had this season did that. Loza and maybe cadogan excpetsd.

I think 1 up top looks light and if they have an off day, we're done. More firepower, more goals.

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Re: Formation(s) for upcoming season

Post by MattA » Wed May 29, 2019 2:31 am

Tarpey would fit the definition of poacher. Certainly not a hold up player with back to goal. His strength is facing the other way.

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Re: Formation(s) for upcoming season

Post by GladToBeHere » Wed May 29, 2019 8:59 am

Yes, the two up top option, I feel is an almost must next season. Without that I can only invisgae us stuggling to make enough opportunities to score.

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Re: Formation(s) for upcoming season

Post by MattA » Wed May 29, 2019 9:42 am

I would think it’s more about the type of players used in certain positions rather than the formation itself.
You get some quite defensive versions of 4-4-2, 5-3-2, 4-2-3-1 etc etc. as well as attacking variations.
It depends primarily on which players are utilized in certain positions of each formation.
A 5-3-2 with Nathan Collier in a wide berth is far less attacking than playing Hodges at right wingback for instance

While you can play one up top, but get players like Hodges, Tarpey and Luer as the three behind and it’s a very attack minded team.

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Re: Formation(s) for upcoming season

Post by Sunbrow » Thu May 30, 2019 12:54 pm

oakie wrote:
Tue May 28, 2019 1:32 pm
Will very much depend on what players we are able to secure - thread is about 2 months too early
Exactly.

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Re: Formation(s) for upcoming season

Post by AndyT » Thu May 30, 2019 8:06 pm

I reckon we will play with at least one goalkeeper, between 3 and 5 defenders, between 3 and 5 midfielders and between 1 and 3 forwards.

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Re: Formation(s) for upcoming season

Post by oakie » Thu May 30, 2019 8:10 pm

AndyT wrote:
Thu May 30, 2019 8:06 pm
I reckon we will play with at least one goalkeeper, between 3 and 5 defenders, between 3 and 5 midfielders and between 1 and 3 forwards.
Can we go for the 1 GK, 5 defenders, 5 midfielders and 3 forwards option

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Re: Formation(s) for upcoming season

Post by AndyT » Fri May 31, 2019 9:05 am

oakie wrote:
Thu May 30, 2019 8:10 pm
AndyT wrote:
Thu May 30, 2019 8:06 pm
I reckon we will play with at least one goalkeeper, between 3 and 5 defenders, between 3 and 5 midfielders and between 1 and 3 forwards.
Can we go for the 1 GK, 5 defenders, 5 midfielders and 3 forwards option
Works well with me 😂

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Re: Formation(s) for upcoming season

Post by GladToBeHere » Sun Jun 23, 2019 7:33 am

GladToBeHere wrote:
Mon May 27, 2019 12:10 pm
Having seen us stick with quite a rigid style of play and formation, that won us promotion back to the National League, do others believe this will prove successful again? This time as a means of achieving safety, 50points+, for our upcoming season in the National League.

My personnel opinion is that without being move accustomed to trying to work out the opposition and setting out a formation to counter their strengths, especially away from home, we could end up being found wanting.
I appreciate that training schedule could become difficult to manage this method, especially being part time and there being so many mid week games at the start of the season but knowing the fixture list mid summer and having a well managed pre-season surely this could be addressed in advance of some of our early away fixtures.

For our default system I have no issues with sticking with the 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1, some could call it, we have been utilisig under Dowse. All I hope is that we recruit well enough to bring about sufficient players of quality to create chances to generate shots at goal to allow players opportunity to covert a good percentage of those into goals.

Away from home I would like to see us try maybe a system that utilises 3 centre backs, more of a 3-5-2 approach. That can then be tweaked dependant upon the opposition, using my best Football Manager approach I’ve tried to illustrate below.
Goalkeeper (GK) Centre Back (CB) Wing Back (WB) Centre Midfield (CM) Defensive Midfielder (DM) Forward Centre (FC)
——————GK——————-
——CB——-CB——-CB——-
WB—CM—-DM—-CM—-WB
—————FC——FC————
Looking to me like the manager doing a cracking job with the player recruitment so far, long may it continue and with any luck will permit for some ability to vary our formations according depending on opposition this season.

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Re: Formation(s) for upcoming season

Post by mussy » Sun Jun 23, 2019 5:48 pm

2 GK would be awesome with a flying V formation.

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Re: Formation(s) for upcoming season

Post by Stjohn » Wed Jun 26, 2019 10:48 pm

Dowse will mix it up more next season

3-5-2

Will do the business!


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